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Grateful Dead Live at Pine Knob Music Theater on 1991-06-20


Topics Live concert


Touch Of Gray, Greatest Story Ever Told, Peggy-O, Mexicali Blues-> Maggie's Farm, Bird Song Throwing Stones, Iko Iko, All Along The Watchtower, Standing On the Moon, He's Gone-> Drums-> Space-> The Wheel-> I Need A Miracle-> Walkin' Blues-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away, E: Brokedown Palace


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Pine Knob Music Theater
Location Clarkston, MI

Source unknown mics > DAT > CDR > EAC x 2 > WAV > SHN3.0

Notes

unknown mics > DAT > CDR > EAC x 2 > WAV > SHN3.0; via Chris Ladner, from Marc Laurent's discs; see info file for listening notes

Reviews

Reviewer: doug_the_dude - - June 20, 2013
Subject: --
Can't really give a super-enthusiastic review to this show, although for those that were there it is clear the voodoo of that setlist really cast a spell. I'm always about trying to separate the *concept* of an unusual setlist with just how well-played that unusual setlist is. Otherwise, it's just a stunt. The Dead certainly were about experimentation in June of '91 (see the wild 6/17 show for comparison), but this one has only moderate success. I think the (sarcasm here) :::::mind-blowing::::: setlist was really the only reason personnel decided it was good enough to charge people money for. If you want to have a go at this, this AUD is about as crystal-clear as you can expect and is worth the time. I wouldn't spend the money on this particular DS release; others I would and have.

Set 1 doesn't gel; Bruce's accordian is far too prevalent throughout the show (a sound I usually don't mind); is it unfair to take this Peggy-O, for example, and compare it to the hypno-drone delicacy of a '77 version? If not, then do so. They seem in quite an awful hurry to finish the tune, and Bruce really just overrides all the other instruments here. Mexicali just limps, and Bruce or someone almost forgets their cue on Maggie's Farm - it's just been done much, much better, folks.

Bird Song is the lone keeper of the first set - now, *this* is some magic! There's a small 2nd-source patch here for the tune's outtro, in case you're wondering why it's broken up.

Set 2 - yadda yadda, Throwing Stones, blah blah blah. Hey, it's cool - as a set opener it certainly forces you to hear it all in a newer context. I am a *huge* fan of some of those searing early-mid 80s renditions of this political ditty; they hadn't settled into that Samson-esque midsection then and some of those experiments were really quite something. But let's face it, it is just a decent tune in this stage of the game, not the whalloping psyche-bomb Bobby may have hoped for. Still in all, if you're going to re-appraise or appreciate this one anew (at least post-87), here's a good place to start.

This 2nd set is kind of like post-Space > D>S > post-Space....Iko presents the best pure instrumentation of the show, Bird Song aside, Watchtower sears (and for posterity's sake, it's a Dylan tune, avacado. Check out John Wesley Harding :), Standing on the Moon has an equally cool solo from Jerry, and the drop into He's Gone is kind of a mini-masterstroke - same pace, same tempo, *whew*!

D>S presents the usual weirdness, although in the context of this setlist it is definitely almost out of place, strange...Jerry blows the lyrics in Wharf Rat pretty badly, if that sort of thing bugs you. They forgot where they left off with Stones and repeat a bit of it, but whatever - it's kind of fun to hear them close the book on that suite. Fun, but not, like, totally amazzzzzng, dude.

I dunno, I guess this show's bound to have it's champions. No, they don't sound like a bad cover band - one listen to Bird Song will prove that. But I think this is a dumb choice for official release. See beyond stunt moves like a weird setlist - it really just ultimately holds the same function as 3D glasses in a movie: a distraction from the content. Once you see through all of that, this show has some good moments, but you've heard them do far, far better on this very same tour. Download this AUD if you want to hear; just don't get suckered into buying it.
Reviewer: Avacado Shag - - October 2, 2011
Subject: Indeed.
First show as a teenager. We made sure to get to the lot at about 11am for all the festivities and were not disapointed. I managed to get facetime on the local news whilst trippin' balls and spent a long gorgeous day in a strange new world. The lawn at Knob was fantastic (still is, depends on the crowd). Dig the interplay on Maggie. Dig Phil's little bombs. Dig how Jerry DELIVERS on the midi fidgeting Aiko solo. I had no idea why the older Heads around me were going bonkers about the setlist and exchanging highfives all around. Wasn't that an old Dixie Cups 45 in my parent's basement? Boy, they really tear apart that Hendrix tune. And as we all start to notice in our groovin' and elated minds that the Moon is full of soma, oozing upon our heads, and it's a sultry Solstice night in Wartime America, Garcia begins Standing on the Moon. This version gets a little slurry on the words (I sure didn't notice at the time) and knots itself up into pretty bows that take their own sweet time unravelling before the bridge, but the feel and shuffle of it are just right. Garcia rears back for the final shout out and solo before Drumzpais and it's On Beyond Zebra. I could go on and on about the 2nd set and the ecstasy of dancing unhinged with total strangers and sticking my big toe into the Time/Space Continuim, or even being congratulated by the guy in front of me for being behind him for this show (hey man, it was nothing. It was all you.)All those little moments get sorta summed up with the crowd filing out into the hillside stairs and parking fields still clapping that Bo Diddly Beat 10, 15, 30 minutes later, not fading away to their bonfires and coolers of Ice Cold Imports, Vegg'rrrritos and glossy-eyed friends. Now shoeless and perhaps mysteriously injured, they (we) sort out what just went down and mentally prepare to re-assimilate into our former culture. Good times.
Reviewer: nigeldavahah - - December 7, 2010
Subject: This recording is good
Great Show
Reviewer: laptap3r - - February 13, 2010
Subject: Not sped up
thinsoul said:

"Are they energetic, using a vocal harmonizor, or is the tape sped up ?"

The show's DAT sourced, ergo speed change is impossible.
Reviewer: mahey - - June 27, 2009
Subject: Dear Sirs
especially iowanic who fails to understand anything it seems. Strangely I harken from that great state as well. get the hell off the bus chump!
Reviewer: blucat13 - - June 15, 2009
Subject: weirdness
The rumors before the show were all about the boys playing a 3-set night, so when they busted throwin' to kick off the second set, everyone around was electrified. well, no 3 set's, but a memorable second set leaving us wishing we'd see some more creativity (flashes of which showed up occasionanlly, like the deftly placed eyes in giants and the second set let it grow of msg-90) in what was ordinarily just the regularly placed shuffled chunks of songs. a fun night but musically no comparison to deer creek or sandstone for the tour.
Reviewer: IowaNic - - April 9, 2009
Subject: uh...
Okay, so I drifted away from the Grateful Dead in the mid-to-late 80s after around 120 shows. I've been reigniting my love affair with them a bit lately through listening to shows on the Archive, which has been fun. But I'd never really listened to anything from the 90s, so I thought I'd give this one a shot because it came highly recommended by someone on DeadNet.

And I have to say...WTF?? It sounds like a bad Grateful Dead cover band. Jerry sounds lost, totally crowded out by all that infernal keyboard noise. Criminy.

Sorry to be a grump. If you like this stuff--and I'm sure many people found it utterly magical--I hear this is a good one to check out. But...
Reviewer: snow_and_rain - - December 22, 2008
Subject: throwin -> iko, wharf rat -> throwin, wha?
here's the lowdown. this was a very good and one-of-a-kind show. and a beautiful night at pine knob pavilion.

starts a little shaky, before jerry pulls it together for a dynamite peggy-o, followed by a nice mexi -> maggie's, bird song.

but this is all about the second set.. and it's really the bob tunes that are showcased. the throwin sandwich is totally out of left field, and the transition between throwin and iko is, as another reviewer said, total goosebump material. watchtower and miracle are both really hot, especially miracle, which flows really nicely out of the wheel. easily the best miracle that i ever saw. a really bright and lively wharf rat brings us back to... throwin??! wtf? i was NOT expecting that. did they ever split throwin before or since? and it really works. not fade, brokedown... of those i attended, this is one of my favorites for sure. 4.5 stars, rounded up for style.
Reviewer: Skippy61 - - April 15, 2008
Subject: who cares??
I don't care what the dickens was going on but this has to be one of the finest shows i have ever heard.
Was at Pine Knob once to see the Beach Boys(free tickets) with Warren Zevon as the opener!! A surreal night to be sure!! anyhow D/L this and say out loud... Thank you The One Love,Thank you to the Dead and of course Thanks so much to the tapers,the uploaders and the ARchive!!

PEACE:Skippy
Reviewer: Thinsoul - - December 1, 2007
Subject: What?
Are they energetic, using a vocal harmonizor, or is the tape sped up ?
Reviewer: Trevor tnt Toll - - June 29, 2007
Subject: the pine
wow dont miss this one and you're right 91 was good year. Can i say that any one who knocks the dead in the nineties must listen to these two nights. Best venue ever or maybe alpine?
Reviewer: chefpimp - - June 11, 2007
Subject: my first shows
what a crazy fuckin' place pine knob was! so much shit in the lot. what great first shows 6-19 & 6-20 were, wish i was older so i could have been turned on earlier in my life. pine knob 1st of 130+, wow.
Reviewer: TyFenn - - December 30, 2006
Subject: Fantastic show!
Don't judge this book by it's cover. Heartfelt singing from Jerry, high energy and tight playing from everyone (did I mention Phil took a mental pill...and went OFF!).

If you like the 90's (I personally think 91 was a great year), you'll enjoy this one.
Reviewer: JB - - December 29, 2006
Subject: very good aud
One of the best sounding aud recordings on archive. Not sure why only 5 reviews,Show is above average from mid first set thru the end.
Reviewer: Garcia/Kimock Fanatic - - November 15, 2006
Subject: Hell yeah baby!!!!
Staying in the office for lunch in Bricktown, OKC, OK -

Damn! This may be the best audience tape I've ever heard in my life! And what a F!@#$%G amazing setlist. As one reviewer said previously, it may look awkward on papaer, but upon first listen it blew me away how the boys made it all gel so smoothly. Check out Bruce Hornsby's accordion playing on Perggy-O! Oh, how I love the Grateful Dead! Jerry's magic will never die! Thank you taper for this magical gem!!!
Reviewer: DandyBear - - July 24, 2006
Subject: Phil Bombs!
Wow! Phil is strong and clear in the mix. I love recordings like this. I've only listened to the Birdsong and its worth the download.
Reviewer: rasjahn - - April 22, 2006
Subject: worth burning
great show great recording sounds like a matrix to me thanx to all for the music
Reviewer: Wavey Davey - - January 29, 2006
Subject: KABOOM!
Super-charged performance and powerful recording. Inventive song placement looks akward on paper but flows suprisingly well in exciting fashion!
Phil is rediculously hot (and tuned up in the mix)much to the joy of my head.
Reviewer: flashy - - October 20, 2004
Subject: Download This Show Now!
I was at both the Pine Knob shows, they were both great but this was the better of the two. Excellent quality recording. The boys were smoking from start to finish. During 'Standing On The Moon', there was a big 'ol fat full moon hanging in the sky over the stage. Grateful Bliss....
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